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critique and feedback - the story of austin's butterfly - Ron Berger

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Featuring Ron Berger from Expeditionary Learning. Produced by David Grant www.elschools.org www.realschoolchange.org Help us caption & translate this video! http://amara.org/v/Cxrm/
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Lee Hunt (1 месяц назад)
Came here from my school.
虞悅Joy Yu (1 месяц назад)
Mime 1- 0:00-0:44 Mime 2: 0:45-1:41 Mime 3: 1:42-3:27
Spyro (2 месяца назад)
Who else is watching this at school ;-;
Lee Hunt (1 месяц назад)
me
Aby Gonzalez (1 месяц назад)
me
Joshuah WHEELER (3 месяца назад)
ching
Lesley Mays (3 месяца назад)
Hello and thanks for this now my class is doing this so yea thanks a lot for sharing this awesome video thanks for this by the way my class loved it
kjbrodie brodir (3 месяца назад)
We all know he printed it to look good
D Mac (4 месяца назад)
Wonderful example of peer editing done with kindness, precise and useful feedback that promotes improvement and confidence. Thank you for this!!
Gracie Gonzalez (5 месяцев назад)
I think a lot of adults would benefit from watching this video and adopting this mindset in their communication with fellow adults :)
Kabir Ahmed (5 месяцев назад)
I can’t believe how Austin has improved!!!
Nipnoxious (5 месяцев назад)
Its so cute and that teacher is so AMAZING
Edward Russell (8 месяцев назад)
it's really useful to see how easy it could be to develop co-operation amongst children. This is a great way to teach children to peer-assess and give 'feedforward'. We always have to think about how we can be better, even though, it'll never be perfect :)
Escola Interamérica (8 месяцев назад)
could you let me contribute to portuguese translation for your video?
stoneheart (10 месяцев назад)
the last draft looks like a dried butterfly to me nut its propably my dark mind
stoneheart (10 месяцев назад)
austin wow
Mask of Shiva (11 месяцев назад)
this is why we shouldn't procrastinate, or our final will be our 1st draft.
DEFCON1xOFFICIAL (1 год назад)
i had to do home work about this why
500 subscribers with no videos challenge (10 месяцев назад)
im with u
Performance Genetyx (1 год назад)
Brilliant example of Growth Mindset - superb.
Karen Frith (1 год назад)
fantastic. such a wonderful message. I love how the children "didn't want to be mean" but felt honesty was important for progress. I loved this clip. Thank you
Ptoler The Nutter (1 год назад)
If any schools see this comment... HHHHHEEEEELLLLOOOOOO
Brigette Carlson (1 год назад)
Ahhhh the power of "yet!" What a wonderful lesson to encourage children to encourage students to be comfortable with editing, not to fall in love with their first ideas, and use kindness when offering suggestions for fine-tuning. To interconnect science, math, vocabulary, and art...along with social emotional facilitation is a balancing act that requires patience and presence.
bayan ajlouni (1 год назад)
The calmness of the teacher, the way of explaining and how to interact with students is striking really 😊
Frederic Wang (1 год назад)
hello anyone here from stat
For Real 68 (1 год назад)
Did anyone else watch this in school😝
Adewole ADEBAYO (1 год назад)
All of these kids should be grown up by now..
Papi Productions (1 год назад)
Adewole ADEBAYO I’m one of the kids in the video I’m a 10 grader now.
Obsidian Ingot (1 год назад)
odutdur yid tyt duidot dtiu t doutro glitch
boi2850 (1 год назад)
attack for the win
Papi Productions (1 год назад)
boi2850 Thanks much appreciated!
amy colgan (1 год назад)
We were asked to look at this for our college work and feedback on how we would apply this in our practise as teaching assistants. Rather than saying to students 'good work' I will try to give them some constructive feedback. So for example, they have written a story but not done an opening sentence or ended it, i would suggest thinking about how we begin stories. to think of the story as a draft that can be improved upon and then revisited again and again so they can do their best work ever.
A stupid Gasmask (1 год назад)
yay i did good
TEZ (1 год назад)
"I knew it!" Brilliant.
Carol Kerr (1 год назад)
Great way to teach kids about communication, including accepting and giving feedback.
Vicki Tardino (1 год назад)
Love it!
Sandi Mitchell (1 год назад)
What I love about this is that the school doesn't accept the first draft. They teach the kids that they (the kids) have it in them to continue doing better. I find that in business sometimes our leaders will either just accept the first draft and have to "fix" things later or they'll simply take the work on themselves. I love this approach of coaching the kids (and our team members) in the specifics of what we're looking for and expecting that they can do it. Most people rise to the level of expectations.
Howard Vause Films - Frome Media Arts (2 года назад)
Great - inspiring
Lily O'Donnell (2 года назад)
Hi
Cynthia Higgins-Fontaine (2 года назад)
Man we all were so little, it brings back great memories! I wishes I still had that hello kitty shirt it was my favorite, I remember when we did this video I was so talkative, but they didn't put in any of my words, only said my name a few times. I wish I was still that little
stoneheart (10 месяцев назад)
wow is it you on 0:32
Cynthia Higgins-Fontaine (1 год назад)
Prodigy Leadership Academy to be honest I can't fully remember, but when I think of it I remember after that I went to all my siblings with tons of things like writing and my artwork when I was finished because I thought wow if I get people to correct me before I go to the teacher I'm going to be at the top of my classes. So ya it helped me work harder and become more opened minded to others opinions and advice
Prodigy Leadership Academy (1 год назад)
Cynthia, did these lessons of helpful critiques and multiple drafts stick with you so that it is a continued part of your learning?
Jason Johnston (2 года назад)
if that's you, you did get in some good insight at about 6:05...
Pamela Ann Johnstone (2 года назад)
What a lovely voice the teacher has. The kids are gorgeous. A fantastic lesson. Thanks!
Gorilla gaming hughes (2 года назад)
Fuck you
Ethan Sammut (2 года назад)
buterful, you get me
Dominique Scheffers (2 года назад)
Dickens
Dominique Scheffers (2 года назад)
Pianoles
Magic Years International School (2 года назад)
This is a fun exercise to do with children and helps demonstrate the benefits of drafting.
Katzy Katz (2 года назад)
There are two things of great interest to scientists. One is whether the results of an experiment have been replicated. Two is whether a particular theory explains the data. Austin's remarkable progress in drawing hasn't been replicated by other Year One students which is odd because year one students do lot of drawing lessons involving peer critiquing and feedback. The first three pictures Austin drew are consistent with the drawing abilities of a Year One student as is the body in the fourth picture. In between drawing the body and wings in the fourth picture, Austin suddenly developed the ability to draw in a manner similar to grown up using tracing techniques for assistance. His style of drafting also changed markedly. To try to claim that this change in drawing ability came about due to peer feedback is like claiming that a Year One student went from adding single digit numbers to solving quadratic trinomials in a single lesson just because it was a really good lesson. Defining mediocrity as a Year One student drawing like a Year One student and then defining excellence as a Year One student drawing like an adult, is an insult to the (apparently quite few) teachers who actually have an interest in childrens' drawing. Mr Berger, you are a charlatan.
Andrew Watson (2 года назад)
It has indeed been replicated. I supervise the Fine Arts programs for a public school division in the USA. I have seen this done many times in action research case studies. Similar results were common. Secondly, the work does not appear to be "drawn in a manner similar to grown up using tracing techniques for assistance" it appears to be drawn by a more developed drafter of a similar age. Seriously, any adult that needs to trace to draw like that had a very poor art education. Nor should you read into this a greater issue of Lowenfeld's Stages of Children's Art. It does not imply that realistic art or "adult art" is in anyway better, it is about one project, which happens to be about learning to see and realistic drawing. Nor are Lowenfeld's Stages this rigid, children develop through the stages at different paces and at different ages.
Brian Taylor (2 года назад)
+Katzy Katz This appears to be WWW-EBI. It isnt rocket science or any other. I am not sure about the "used the eyes of a scientist" thing but such is life. The early drafts improved as a result of feedback, and the feedback given here was very valid and would have led to improvement. I use this when talking to learners about concept formation and prototyping rather than drawing, but I think it is just a little crazy to start talking here in terms of experiements and replicability. "The wings need to be more pointed" is good feedback, we don't need an RCT to check this out, teaching really as difficult as you would like to make out. Get over it (in the nicest possible way).
Stacye Leanza (2 года назад)
It seems like Austin finally settled into pure observation ("right brain") mode when he began the 4th version. As if he stopped "trying" ("left brain"), & began deeply observing, which requires being fully present and aware. He remained in "the zone" of deep observation, as he added the texture.
Andrew Watson (2 года назад)
Right Brain/Left Brian dichotomy has been repeatedly disproven.
vividreams (3 года назад)
In learning this in class I feel like it's "when people say there bad at art because they don't try but when they try there way good
Jules Webb Animation (3 года назад)
van driessen
Paul Thompson (3 года назад)
It's also a great example of poor initial instruction. 'Draw a butterfly' is not the best starting instruction to get the outcome expected. I mean he did what he was told the first time. He 'forgot' to look at it like a scientist? He clearly wasn't given any initial help or instruction to draw it the way the teacher wanted. There are key guidelines and help that can be given to make students think more about what they are doing in the first place and to draw a 'scientific drawing'. I've had plenty of students who say I can't draw, but with clear instruction and guidance they do fine drawing scientifically on the first go (and then improve further with feedback). I'm not saying feedback and critique aren't good things and helpful. Or that it isn't a magical transformation from the feedback given.
Andrew Watson (2 года назад)
Yes, but this was research not just instruction. The initial instructions gave a per-assessment of what the child already knew. The additional directions and critique allows us to see what happens when good instruction is added.
Zach Shroff (3 года назад)
He has the MOST annoying voice
stoneheart (10 месяцев назад)
you havent heard @chills (narrator)
Melissa Suchodolskiy (3 года назад)
i wasint ready
Marcos Nunez (3 года назад)
This is also a very powerful message that promotes "Growth Mindset", I use this video in my classroom to teach the students that they may think they are bad at math and cannot improve, when in reality they can improve if they are provided proper feedback that is accurately applied.  Math is not some inherent trait, it is available and open to all, you just need the proper instruction and application of feedback.
Stacye Leanza (2 года назад)
+Marcos Nunez - I tell my drawing students the same thing!
David Grant (3 года назад)
This is what good art teachers have been doing every day for years! ...glad to see that we are getting a little recognition for how we "teach" others "how to see."
aeth2 (3 года назад)
Susan wants you to all be cautious about giving feedback so that students dreams aren't crushed!
thtj (3 года назад)
4:58 "he is so gud"
stoneheart (10 месяцев назад)
gud is god in swedis lmao
The_Famous_Gamer (3 года назад)
Knap dat hij dat zo jong kan!
Lukealan11 (3 года назад)
I knew it! 0:46 Hahaha IGN would laugh again :D
Amaan Malik (4 года назад)
I met Ron Berger as a student.He flew from America and was full of wisdom-probably one of the best teachers around
Tom Eaton (4 года назад)
I watch this in school EVREY DAY its AMAZING but watching it every day is annoying
Amanda Davis (4 года назад)
anyone know how to put this in my power point so frustrated!!!  i down loaded it
Xeanne. M (4 года назад)
We watched this like 100000 times
stoneheart (10 месяцев назад)
1000 000 000 for me
Elbi Askin (3 года назад)
+jeff 21 ghhj
Elbi Askin (3 года назад)
U Suciaghi
swaglifejae21 (4 года назад)
NO WAY GROSS
Xeanne. M (4 года назад)
NO WHAT THE HECK
Neil Morris (4 года назад)
Great video;strong and important message (but am I the only one that suspects this is all a bit staged and Austin didn't actually draw the 4th and 5th drafts!)
Tahlia Drew (4 года назад)
Yeah it seems it I don't thing he did I still can't draw a butterfly that good
Patrick Shaw (4 года назад)
Looking forward to Ron Berger as our Keynote Speaker for #PBLny  in Syracuse, NY today!  Aug. 8, 2014  OCM BOCES
Anton De vries (4 года назад)
Great buildinglearningpower example!!
Libby Woodfin (4 года назад)
Ron Berger is the lead author on Expeditionary Learning's new book, Leaders of Their Own Learning: Transforming Schools through Student-Engaged Assessment. The Austin's Butterfly video is one of 27 that accompany the book. For more information visit: www.elschools.org/leadersoftheirownlearning.
Sweets_YT (1 год назад)
Libby Woodfin nobody cares
Angus Jones (4 года назад)
hahaha! the kid at the beginning! "i knew it!". and the girl in the red cardigan had slugs as eyebrows!
Ann Dierks (5 лет назад)
får jag nga minuter av din tid....
Ylva Olausson (5 лет назад)
Amazing white shirt and tie and good-looking male teacher, will that ever happen in Sweden? In our primary school the majority of the teachers are female and the dress code is non-existing. And the teaching!!! I am 50+ and still cannot draw like that young Austin :-)
Veronica Wendin (4 года назад)
School in the U.S wasn't like this 40 years ago....we work with peer feedback in Swedish schools today too...and why do you comment on his "good looks"? Seems very superficial and has nothing to do with formative assessment...
Maria Pettersson (5 лет назад)
Amazing!
StCrowleyable (5 лет назад)
I felt like one of the 2nd graders watching this.
Jim Barnhill (5 лет назад)
I use this to show high school kids how to give/receive feedback! Thanks!
CUC Storm (5 лет назад)
2 grade
CUC Storm (5 лет назад)
That was my class
Phill Cristofaro (5 лет назад)
This backs up John Hattie's research nicely. Read / search for "Visible Learning"...
NessaMedia (5 лет назад)
this was so interesting

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